Root -- --genetic, abraham
Branches -- genetic + gentiles
Christianity = tree
tree is salvation mechanics
engraft = something foreign is engrafted to the tree
1-25 genetics
26 israel spiritual nation
Saturday, June 30, 2007
Sunday, June 24, 2007
Romans 10
- Israelites are zealots for God, but their belief is not based on faith, thus they're not really saved.
did they have their chance to change? yes, see rom 10:8, 10:21.
"Their voice has gone out into all the earth,
their words to the ends of the world."[i] 19Again I ask: Did Israel not understand? First, Moses says,
"I will make you envious by those who are not a nation;
I will make you angry by a nation that has no understanding."[j] 20And Isaiah boldly says,
"I was found by those who did not seek me;
I revealed myself to those who did not ask for me."[k] 21But concerning Israel he says,
"All day long I have held out my hands
to a disobedient and obstinate people."[l]
- 10:4For (D)Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to (E)everyone who believes.
1. Christ exemplified a human who can 100% adhered to the law.
2. terminated the law.
- 2 path to salvation (a bit speculative):
1. you obey the law 100%, (romans 10:5) or
2. you accept christ
wanna obey the law 100%? be my guest.. and send my best regards to the original sin guy if you meet it along the road :)
did they have their chance to change? yes, see rom 10:8, 10:21.
"Their voice has gone out into all the earth,
their words to the ends of the world."[i] 19Again I ask: Did Israel not understand? First, Moses says,
"I will make you envious by those who are not a nation;
I will make you angry by a nation that has no understanding."[j] 20And Isaiah boldly says,
"I was found by those who did not seek me;
I revealed myself to those who did not ask for me."[k] 21But concerning Israel he says,
"All day long I have held out my hands
to a disobedient and obstinate people."[l]
- 10:4For (D)Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to (E)everyone who believes.
1. Christ exemplified a human who can 100% adhered to the law.
2. terminated the law.
- 2 path to salvation (a bit speculative):
1. you obey the law 100%, (romans 10:5) or
2. you accept christ
wanna obey the law 100%? be my guest.. and send my best regards to the original sin guy if you meet it along the road :)
Sunday, June 17, 2007
Romans 9
1-33
Discussing what is the meaning of "Israel" now.
"Israel" bukanlah Israel dalam artian keturunan orang2 Yahudi, soalnya Israel saja by definition tidak lah di-trait melalui Yakub, tapi melalui ishak (7).
Now about pre-destination and fore-knew.
This is what we're thinking right now:
1. from the beginning, God already knew what way that you will pick based on your free-will, what kind of life that you will choose to lead based on your free-will.
2. now you come into being, you choose your path, you decide everything... *the* decision is yours solely, the catch is God already know whatever you would choose ;)
even if you decide becoming a bum by not choosing anything... God already knew that you will decide to become a bum anyway.
3. in a sense, you are pre-destined to be saved, or not be saved... and this ... 'selection' if you will, is God's sovereignity. the freewill is still there (see above) though.
This is a bit confusing 'course.. But the freewill, the predestination, the fore-knew still fit nicely somewhat.
"And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified." (Rom. 8:28-30, NASB)
33: stumbling stone
this is Jesus, and this passage applies to the jews who still waiting for their messiah.
Discussing what is the meaning of "Israel" now.
"Israel" bukanlah Israel dalam artian keturunan orang2 Yahudi, soalnya Israel saja by definition tidak lah di-trait melalui Yakub, tapi melalui ishak (7).
Now about pre-destination and fore-knew.
This is what we're thinking right now:
1. from the beginning, God already knew what way that you will pick based on your free-will, what kind of life that you will choose to lead based on your free-will.
2. now you come into being, you choose your path, you decide everything... *the* decision is yours solely, the catch is God already know whatever you would choose ;)
even if you decide becoming a bum by not choosing anything... God already knew that you will decide to become a bum anyway.
3. in a sense, you are pre-destined to be saved, or not be saved... and this ... 'selection' if you will, is God's sovereignity. the freewill is still there (see above) though.
This is a bit confusing 'course.. But the freewill, the predestination, the fore-knew still fit nicely somewhat.
"And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified." (Rom. 8:28-30, NASB)
33: stumbling stone
this is Jesus, and this passage applies to the jews who still waiting for their messiah.
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